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October 14, 2009

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Drew Buddie

David,

Although the theme of the next MirandaMod (see http://mirandamod.wikispaces.com/ ) which will take place at the IoE on 22nd October (and is open to all) is e-Safety, the organisers are constructing Mindmeister MindMaps to illustrtae the findings of the meeting. You are welcome to attend or to watch at a distance. You can sign up[ for the e-safety MirandaMod at http://mirandamod.wikispaces.com/Digital+Literacy+-+Digital+Safety and, as has been the case in the past, whether face-to-face or via the Internet, attendees are likely to find the debate stimulating and fascinating. [The MirandaMod format was devised by Theo Keuchel & Drew Buddie for the benevolent ICT association Mirandanet (founded by Christina Preston)].

David Tebbutt

Hi Drew. I have, but not in anywhere near enough depth.

Thanks for your interesting comments. It all enriches the debate.

Drew Buddie

Interesting article David.

In my school MindMapping is now very firmly embedded as a core skill which our students use in order to enhance their learning - we've embraced the whole 'independent learning' thing. In the Folens A Level textbook for WJEC's ICT course, MindMaps are supplied as 'end of chapter summaries'. Students are now at the point of being able to CHOOSE their own methodologies for MindMap construction - whether it be a) by hand, b) drawing within Word etc. c) creation of non-linear hyperlinked slideshows d)using purpose-made MindMapping software such as Inspiration/Kidspiration or the Open Source 'Freemind' or, as is now becoming the case, e) using one of the plethora of Web 2.0 apps like bubbl.us & Mindmeister. The latter in fact allow SIMULTANEOUS editing of MindMaps by more than one individual, no matter how remote from easch other they may be situated - which offers VERY exciting possibilities for the classroom.

It used to be the case that *I* as ICT teacher would introduce students to prograns like these - but it is becoming more so the case that students are finding and using these apps INDEPENDENTLY and telling others about them. MindMapping software provision seems to be a bit of a 'cut throat' business now as companies now have to find features that THEY offer which are NOT available on other packages eg. Mindmeister is now available as an iPhone app!

I am also interested (as are Christina Preston & Dr John Cuthell of Mirandanet) in the area of *CONCEPT* mapping and wonder if you have looked into this area too.

David Tebbutt

Hi Alexander. Thank you for the comment and the links (which didn't work at first but seem fine now, in case anyone's revisiting.)

From the discussions I had with MindGenius, I am optimistic that it will stay on course. Although, judging from your last comment, I'm not sure that the course will be multi-platform or web-aware, although it does provide for a variety of outputs including four HTML versions.

Hopefully someone from MindGenius will be keeping an eye on these comments and will be able to answer 'from the horse's mouth', so to speak.

Alexander Deliyannis

I think I first tried mind mapping programs in 2002. At the time Mind Manager and Mind Genius were the only offerings I found, save exotic approaches such as Personal Brain. I opted for Mind Genius for specific functionalities (and also perhaps because it came from the UK).

A few years later, I switched to Mind Manager whose development seemed more consistent. I upgraded up to version 6; there on I found its performance too sluggish and its resource appetite too great for comfort.

I tested other options that appeared in the meantime such as the very classy OpenMind, now called MindView, from Danish Matchware. It was great, but its price put me off; indeed, I find most mind mapping programs highly overpriced for what they offer, compared to most other information management software.

Just in time, came MindGenius' latest upgrade at a sensible price. I appreciate the developers' focus and business approach (Chuck Frey wrote about it here: http://mindmappingsoftwareblog.com/whats-next-for-mindgenius/ ). I hope that they will stay on course.

I have written elsewhere ( http://www.outlinersoftware.com/topics/viewt/879/0/i-want-it-all-now ) that information managers should eventually become cross-platform and web-aware because this is what users will expect. However, this can't be achieved at the expense of their core functionality, or they will hardly be the tools that users look for in the first place.

David Tebbutt

Woo. You caught me just in time. Whether it has users of the new version, I have no idea but it would make sense. I've pointed the people that matter to this comment thread.

Thanks.

Andrew Wilcox

Hi David

A MindGenius user please not employee!

I am a reseller and trainer but not employed by Mindjet.

Andrew

David Tebbutt

Thank you for the comment Andrew. Greatly appreciated.

I'll see if I can get a MindGenius person to answer your question.

Andrew Wilcox

Hi David

Interesting observations. Declaring my hand I have been / am a passionate user of Mindjet MindManager for the 10 plus years. I have looked at MindGenius occasionally but never jumped the gap. Principally because I had invested many hours into finding out how MindManager works, it's limitations and how best to exploit it. I did not fancy doing that again.

You are absolutely correct the tool must not get in the way of the application. It has to let you flow through the process without delays or interuptions. This is where Mindjet is failing to listen to it's user and remove some it's idiosyncratic behaviour behaviour before moving on to the next big thing. A search of their forums, the Yahoo group and the web in general will reveal the repetitve nature of these cries for action.

Does this mean I am tottering towards another application? No. I am simply doing too much, too quickly with MindManager. From managing my own business, helping others with theirs and, recording and publishing events on the web.

I am a big user of MindManager in Ink Mode on the Tablet PC which allows you to flow even more than the keyboard. I have 167 ink topics to convert in to a text and formatted map this evening. Hopefully this will communicate a great summary of today's speaker and the Q&A session which lasted less than 45 minutes in one map. This will be on the web tomorrow subject to the speaker's approval. It will not shared using the latest technology from Mindjet - the Mindjet Player. It's too slow, too big, losses the formatting of the desktop version and the navigation process slows down the engagement of the reader. Too many brain cycles before you see what you want! It will be a scrollable clickable image map which replicates the map I see on my desktop. They should "get" the map in less than a minute and then move on to more detailed information if they wish! This is about the time it takes to start the Mindjet Player in my browser window.

What a burble. What do MindGenius users burble about their application?

p.s. MindGenius are right the market is huge and none of the current players have come anywhere near dominating it. I hope they will both improve their offerings so that new users get value quickly. For us old users I hope they listen to us.

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